Having tried both stripping and straight clipping, I found Salty preferred clipping a lot more. Does anyone know what the benefit of stripping is? Is it a tradition for show dogs or a health matter?
Most groomers will not handstrip westies as it takes a long time. I also find that not many groomers know how to groom the head and tail properly.
If you get your westies from reputable breeders especially those who show their westies, they should be able to show you how to handstrip or do it for a fee. It is important that you go to someone who knows what they are doing. Handstripping is best for westies as the coat remains harsh and tends to stay cleaner. You can contact the Westie Club of QLD at:
One of our members, Emily offers a grooming service, both clipping and stripping. She has gorgeous Westies of her own - Fergus and Lulu. To view her beautiful handiwork, visit her at Westgroom
the coat king will not damage there coat as an adult dog it is designed to remove the dead coat. You do need to make sure you have the correct size to ensure you are not cutting into the hair and you should always brush in the direction of the coat to avoid cutting the hair.
Hi, My name is Kristy i have been grooming dogs for 10years now and have done many westies in my time. You should find with the right groomer your dog should be able to be calm. I have alot of dogs come into my place for grooming where the owners are amazed that there dog was not a problem. They have had groomers ban there dogs or as you say do a bad job. I believe you should take her consistantly to one groomer and have them do your dog from start to finish to just concentrate on doing your dog they should have your dog for 1 to 1.5hrs tops. your dog should become comfortable with them. Alot of the time dogs become worse when there owners are around and pick up on the way you are feeling and it makes the experience worse for them. Hope this helps.
I have a westie and she is nearly 4 years old. She hates being groomed, hates having her legs touched and hates being brushed. I can bath her myself and that isn't a problem. I have been having groomers come to the house and she isn't as bad as she used to be, but they don't seem to be able to do a proper westie haircut. It always looks like they clipper half way down her tummy and then she has all this hair. Any suggestions as to what I can do.
I am shortly going to be picking up my new pup, and although the breeder will be a help with grooming (i have experience grooming long haired breeds) I will be learning how to handstrip, and Im trying to get some ideas before i start.
What age can you start stripping, and how often, I have seen some places say every six weeks and others every six months. Also can you use a stripping comb ie the mars coat king if you are stripping for a show coat or is this only ideal for a 'pet' strip
Thanks
Hello I'm new to the group and I'm Ann, a Westie groomer having owned and breathed westies for 30+ years. When I lived in Victoria I operated a westie grooming business. I am now located at Tamborine, about 1 hrs drive from Brisbane, 0407 821 353 or if you wish I can provide you with my dry-cleaning grooming sheet on how to keep your westie clean without immersing him in water via email dslodge@bigpond.net.au.
Hello All,
We are new to Westies. Can you please tell me if the Mars Coat King can be used on a Westie we intend to show or is hand stripping the only way. If so can anyone recommend a Westie Groomer on Bris. nth side. We had an unfortunate experience several months ago when we took our girl to the pooch parlor for her first Westie cut. We explained that we were preparing to show her yet when we collected her she was clippered. This experience put us back several months.
Hi there, I too have a Mars Coat King and they are fabulous - don't be too put off when you see the amount of hair that comes out of them as it's only getting all the dead hair under all their fur. I purchased a size 12 which is just fine for Zac - I ordered through the website and the product was posted to me within a few days
I've been stripping Lily since she was a small puppy, in fact she's never been clipped. She also stretches out when getting stripped mainly when I'm doing the base of her back. I used to use a stripping knife until I discovered the Mars stripping comb - its amazing! Its very easy to use and doesn't appear to cause her any discomfort. It also keeps her outer coat harsh. I tend to use it all over her about once per fortnight and just use a slicker brush in-between.
I purchased mine on the Gold Coast at the pet shop in Harbour Town for around $30. It doesn't have replaceable blades. But you can also get them online: http://marsgroomingproducts.com.au/
My westies have experienced stripping from a very early age. Nowadays they stretch out on the grooming table and eagerly await to be stripped. Yes honestly!! My groomer has given me some top tips to help in the stripping process to help keep them looking tip top and easier on her poor shoulder when I take them for striping once every 12-16 weeks. If started early as Barry mentions then they are used to the gentle tugging of fur. As pups they get bored quickly on the table so it's been a case of little and often. My older westie now gets clipped however if she's getting a little "feral" looking, she welcomes a gentle stripping of her coat! It's like going for a session at the massage palour!
Stripping is a grooming method used on dogs with 2 coats, where the thinner, undercoat is plucked in order to promote the thicker, wiry outer coat to grow in. The benefit of stripping the undercoat is that the wiry outer coat lies flatter against the body protecting the skin better. The wiry coat is also better at repelling dirt and provides better water proofing. If you've felt the coat of a wire-haired foxy, compared to a smooth-haired foxy, you'll know what the difference in texture feels like. Not all breeds of dogs have two coats but in the ones that do, stripping is an option for grooming.
Take a close look at the hair on your Westie's back, you'll see interspersed between the fine thinner hairs, wiry ones. It is this coat of hair that stripping aims to promote. You'll notice that the wiry hairs are thin at the base and then thicken out. This is why using clippers to groom your Westie doesn't promote the growth of the wiry coat. Only the thin part of the wiry hairs remain after clipping. However, when stripping is used, the wiry hairs persist while the dead, thinner hairs of the undercoat are pulled out.
If your Westie was working in the fields and bramble hunting out vermin, as they were bred to do, this would happen naturally. As their fur catches on thickets and bushes, it would pull out the thinner, weaker hair that makes makes up the the under coat.
I have never seen stripping being performed, but from what I have read, it can be done either using one's fingers or using a special stripping knife. When done with fingers, the thinner hairs are gripped between the thumb and forefingers and plucked out. When a stripping knife is employed, the coat is folded over the knife and then the knife is jerked to pluck out the undercoat hairs. A range of knives are used to blend the back coat into the skirt.
Stripping your Westie should be done by someone who knows what they are doing. It is not just a matter of plucking out random hairs. There is a particular pattern in which it should be done, and should only be done on areas where the hair is "ready". Experienced coat strippers will be able to identify which areas are ready. Other factors that are important are the preparation of the coat, the direction in which to pull at the hair, and avoiding skin irritations and infection of the hair follicles. If done correctly, it should not be painful to the dog, or at least until they become familiar with the sensation. Because stripping is labour intensive, it will cost more than regular grooming with clippers. It is probably important to commence stripping your Westie at a young age to get them used to being handled in this way. I can't imagine Maggie, who is now almost 3, being willing to sit through a stripping session.
Because of the time, effort and cost of stripping, and likely discomfort to the dog, most Westie owners don't have their Westies stripped unless they are going to be showing them.
For the uninitiated can someone please tell me - what is "stripping"? Is it simply pulling the hair out? (Doesn't that hurt?!) And how much extra does it cost?
Hi Qldsalty - the main reason behind hand stipping is to keep the westies harsh outer coating which is what they are suppose to have. Once you start clipping you clip away the harsh coat leaving the soft undercoat only. The only reason I can think of why groomers would prefer to clip is that it is easier and lets face it - the westie groom isn't the easiest of grooms. Once you start clipping you will find that their coats become curly or wavy when in fact their fur should be fairly straight. My groomer does a bit of both for my boy as I like the harsh outer coat. Plus the benefit of keeping the harsh outer coat is less bathing the dog as dirt will just fall out. Hope that helps you out
I believe hand stripping helps maintain a westies harsh outer coating and yes it is mainly for showing - you will quite often see once you start clipping a westie their fur becomes curly as with hand stripping it stays nice and straight especially around their skirt and legs. Our groomer does a bit of both on our Westie. I'm no expert but from what I have heard it is best to hand strip and the only reason groomers clip is because it's quicker - groomers will hand strip but will charge more
grooming for charlie-our westie
please would u b kind enough to provide me with your fact sheet on westie grooming without water. thanks
Most groomers will not
Most groomers will not handstrip westies as it takes a long time. I also find that not many groomers know how to groom the head and tail properly.
If you get your westies from reputable breeders especially those who show their westies, they should be able to show you how to handstrip or do it for a fee. It is important that you go to someone who knows what they are doing. Handstripping is best for westies as the coat remains harsh and tends to stay cleaner. You can contact the Westie Club of QLD at:
http://www.westiesqld.org.au/
They can refer you to westie exhibitors who groom westies!
Westie Groomer
Hi Audrey,
One of our members, Emily offers a grooming service, both clipping and stripping. She has gorgeous Westies of her own - Fergus and Lulu. To view her beautiful handiwork, visit her at Westgroom
Maggie The Philanthropooch
Grooming
I have two Westies which are almost 6mths old. I live in Brisbane. Can you please put me in touch with someone that knows how to clip them.
grooming
I am interested in having you groom my Westie - can you tell me where you are located please - Kathy
the coat king will not
the coat king will not damage there coat as an adult dog it is designed to remove the dead coat. You do need to make sure you have the correct size to ensure you are not cutting into the hair and you should always brush in the direction of the coat to avoid cutting the hair.
Hi, My name is Kristy i have
Hi, My name is Kristy i have been grooming dogs for 10years now and have done many westies in my time. You should find with the right groomer your dog should be able to be calm. I have alot of dogs come into my place for grooming where the owners are amazed that there dog was not a problem. They have had groomers ban there dogs or as you say do a bad job. I believe you should take her consistantly to one groomer and have them do your dog from start to finish to just concentrate on doing your dog they should have your dog for 1 to 1.5hrs tops. your dog should become comfortable with them. Alot of the time dogs become worse when there owners are around and pick up on the way you are feeling and it makes the experience worse for them. Hope this helps.
Grooming
coat king
Ideas please
Grooming
Coat King
Hello All,
We are new to Westies. Can you please tell me if the Mars Coat King can be used on a Westie we intend to show or is hand stripping the only way. If so can anyone recommend a Westie Groomer on Bris. nth side. We had an unfortunate experience several months ago when we took our girl to the pooch parlor for her first Westie cut. We explained that we were preparing to show her yet when we collected her she was clippered. This experience put us back several months.
Coat King
Hi there, I too have a Mars Coat King and they are fabulous - don't be too put off when you see the amount of hair that comes out of them as it's only getting all the dead hair under all their fur. I purchased a size 12 which is just fine for Zac - I ordered through the website and the product was posted to me within a few days
Stripping Lily
I've been stripping Lily since she was a small puppy, in fact she's never been clipped. She also stretches out when getting stripped mainly when I'm doing the base of her back. I used to use a stripping knife until I discovered the Mars stripping comb - its amazing! Its very easy to use and doesn't appear to cause her any discomfort. It also keeps her outer coat harsh. I tend to use it all over her about once per fortnight and just use a slicker brush in-between.
I purchased mine on the Gold Coast at the pet shop in Harbour Town for around $30. It doesn't have replaceable blades. But you can also get them online: http://marsgroomingproducts.com.au/
Stripping v's massage!
My westies have experienced stripping from a very early age. Nowadays they stretch out on the grooming table and eagerly await to be stripped. Yes honestly!! My groomer has given me some top tips to help in the stripping process to help keep them looking tip top and easier on her poor shoulder when I take them for striping once every 12-16 weeks. If started early as Barry mentions then they are used to the gentle tugging of fur. As pups they get bored quickly on the table so it's been a case of little and often. My older westie now gets clipped however if she's getting a little "feral" looking, she welcomes a gentle stripping of her coat! It's like going for a session at the massage palour!
What is Stripping?
Hi Susan,
Stripping is a grooming method used on dogs with 2 coats, where the thinner, undercoat is plucked in order to promote the thicker, wiry outer coat to grow in. The benefit of stripping the undercoat is that the wiry outer coat lies flatter against the body protecting the skin better. The wiry coat is also better at repelling dirt and provides better water proofing. If you've felt the coat of a wire-haired foxy, compared to a smooth-haired foxy, you'll know what the difference in texture feels like. Not all breeds of dogs have two coats but in the ones that do, stripping is an option for grooming.
Take a close look at the hair on your Westie's back, you'll see interspersed between the fine thinner hairs, wiry ones. It is this coat of hair that stripping aims to promote. You'll notice that the wiry hairs are thin at the base and then thicken out. This is why using clippers to groom your Westie doesn't promote the growth of the wiry coat. Only the thin part of the wiry hairs remain after clipping. However, when stripping is used, the wiry hairs persist while the dead, thinner hairs of the undercoat are pulled out.
If your Westie was working in the fields and bramble hunting out vermin, as they were bred to do, this would happen naturally. As their fur catches on thickets and bushes, it would pull out the thinner, weaker hair that makes makes up the the under coat.
I have never seen stripping being performed, but from what I have read, it can be done either using one's fingers or using a special stripping knife. When done with fingers, the thinner hairs are gripped between the thumb and forefingers and plucked out. When a stripping knife is employed, the coat is folded over the knife and then the knife is jerked to pluck out the undercoat hairs. A range of knives are used to blend the back coat into the skirt.
Stripping your Westie should be done by someone who knows what they are doing. It is not just a matter of plucking out random hairs. There is a particular pattern in which it should be done, and should only be done on areas where the hair is "ready". Experienced coat strippers will be able to identify which areas are ready. Other factors that are important are the preparation of the coat, the direction in which to pull at the hair, and avoiding skin irritations and infection of the hair follicles. If done correctly, it should not be painful to the dog, or at least until they become familiar with the sensation. Because stripping is labour intensive, it will cost more than regular grooming with clippers. It is probably important to commence stripping your Westie at a young age to get them used to being handled in this way. I can't imagine Maggie, who is now almost 3, being willing to sit through a stripping session.
Because of the time, effort and cost of stripping, and likely discomfort to the dog, most Westie owners don't have their Westies stripped unless they are going to be showing them.
Regards,
Barry
Grooming
For the uninitiated can someone please tell me - what is "stripping"? Is it simply pulling the hair out? (Doesn't that hurt?!) And how much extra does it cost?
Susan Bryant
Stripping V Clipping
Hi Qldsalty - the main reason behind hand stipping is to keep the westies harsh outer coating which is what they are suppose to have. Once you start clipping you clip away the harsh coat leaving the soft undercoat only. The only reason I can think of why groomers would prefer to clip is that it is easier and lets face it - the westie groom isn't the easiest of grooms. Once you start clipping you will find that their coats become curly or wavy when in fact their fur should be fairly straight. My groomer does a bit of both for my boy as I like the harsh outer coat. Plus the benefit of keeping the harsh outer coat is less bathing the dog as dirt will just fall out. Hope that helps you out
Hand Stripping V Clipping
Hi
I believe hand stripping helps maintain a westies harsh outer coating and yes it is mainly for showing - you will quite often see once you start clipping a westie their fur becomes curly as with hand stripping it stays nice and straight especially around their skirt and legs. Our groomer does a bit of both on our Westie. I'm no expert but from what I have heard it is best to hand strip and the only reason groomers clip is because it's quicker - groomers will hand strip but will charge more